1/48 F-16D 2-seater Viper

[speedlimit]

I think this will complete the circle. ALOT of modelers are waiting for Tamiya to get this one out.

Eric

[Boom175]

Amen!! or in 32nd would be nice too!!

[rickstertwofive]

Hello...I'm a Viper modeler in 1/48th and 1/32nd scales from the Philippines...
I think that Tamiya should produce the F-16D, specially the Israeli (Barak) or Polish or Chilean variants. Other models of F-16D :eek: has a long list of errors or issues in my book. Many people are clamoring for it specially at the F-16.net forum where I also belong also for the same reason I mentioned above. Tamiya F-16Cs :) are the best in the market...that's why I wholeheartedly suggest to follow it up with the F-16D. ;)

[Falcon174thFW]

I could not have said it better!! Can you say Tamiya 1/48th F-16D.. ok the "B" variant as well..
Flaps up,
Mike

[gtypecanare]

Keep up with all the great feedback!!!:)

[rickstertwofive]

I could not have said it better!! Can you say Tamiya 1/48th F-16D.. ok the "B" variant as well..
Flaps up,
Mike

The F-16B can be modeled from an F-16D-25/32 (PW Engined) by merely changing the tail base and the cockpits's instrument panels. But it's a good idea too.

Please include the latest loadouts like the sniper targetting pod, bru-57 bomb racks, gbu-38, agm-65 on single rail launcher and others... :)

[JimmyO78]

How about a 1/48 and 1/32 F-16 C/D/N with all the parts for single and 2 seat variants in one box (be sure to throw in the stand from the T-Birds kit). From a parts perspective, you're almost there in the 1/48 kit.

[rickstertwofive]

How about a 1/48 and 1/32 F-16 C/D/N with all the parts for single and 2 seat variants in one box (be sure to throw in the stand from the T-Birds kit). From a parts perspective, you're almost there in the 1/48 kit.

good idea! :cool:
In terms of USAF Vipers, it would be just a matter of putting a new sprue containing parts for the tandem tub viper with the current F-16C/N. :D
I do still hope for Israeli Vipers, the Barak (both solo and tandem tub) with Israeli weapons like the Python AAMs.:cool:

[golgotha]

I like the F16 series of aircraft, so how about adding conformal fuel tanks into the mix if some IAF versions are on the drawing board.

John

[rickstertwofive]

The CFT are large parts that require addtional sprue/s, plus there are many more parts into it. It can get the kit expensive. The Barak and Sufa may probably issued as a separate kit, if Tamiya decides to make our wishes come true.

The question is are there IAF Vipers on the drawing board. The main problem is that Tamiya has not yet released an Israeli aircraft. They could have readily released an F-16C-40 Barak by merely adding a sprue loaded with Israeli Barak modifications and Python AAMs, plus IAF decals to the F-16CJ (61098). I wonder why couldn't make this happen to the finest 1/48 and 1/32 Viper in the market? :( We could only wish both the Barak and the Sufa, w/c are for me the most colorful combat vipers, will be released.

[Harv]

Amen!! or in 32nd would be nice too!!

Concur; 1/48 AND 1/32 F-16B/D or other two-seat variant! Right now, modelers are forced to settle & spend our hobby budgets on Tamiya's competition (and lesser quality/accuracy) in order to model the two-seat Vipers. Seeing these in Tamiya quality, accuracy and highest engineering standards would be fantastic!

[jaws]

1/48, add: 1. aft cockpit assembly to the C/N variant, 2. add a lot more weapons configurations

[sluggo357]

All,

The modern jet community modelers love the Tamiya Vipers, in both scales. We sorely need a Viper Tub kit... a two seat F-16B/D. All of us hope Tamiya will soon produce an F-16B/D at least in 1/48 scale but hopefully in both scales... 1/48 and 1/32. Tamiya's F-16s are the industry standard and why so many of us are writing to you to produce a two seat F-16 kit in both scales.

I also want to pass along other sugesstions. We want to see Tamiya produce F-4s in 1/48 scale. We all want to see the F-4C/D, F-4E, and F-4J in 1/48 scale. What would be even better is to produce early hard wing F-4Es and late model slatted wing F-4Es with TISEO, ARN-101, and PAVE TACK. I took a lot of pictures of the Clark Air Base F-4Es before they went to the Boneyard. The Hasaegawa kits are good but old technolgy... new molding and production technology Tamiya uses on their plastic model kits would make these F-4 Phantom kits the industry standard. After Tamiya produces the Phantom series (to include F-4B and RF-4C/E too!), please produce F-15C/D/E's in 1/48 scale!

Looking forward to seeing Viper Tub kits soon, but praying for the Phantom series sooner!!! :cool:

Sluggo sends!

[Vodnik]

The F-16B can be modeled from an F-16D-25/32 (PW Engined) by merely changing the tail base and the cockpits's instrument panels.
No, it cannot - certainly not by merely replacing parts you listed. To make a shorter and narrower A/B-variant tail base fit to upper fuselage part of F-16C you first need to reshape the Tamiya part, as it is only designed to fit the wider and longer C/D-variant base. And there is a lot of panel line differences. It would be great if Tamiya released a proper F-16A model one day, but I don't expect it any time soon.

On the other hand I'm pretty sure that Tamiya has everything ready for a F-16D release and they only need encouragement from us to do it! So, please Mr.Tamiya we REALLY want F-16D!!! In both 1/48 and 1/32!

Pawel

[ViperEnforcer]

I must get on board here, as the 2 seat Viper should have been a reality by now. I think Tamiya is missing a golden opportunity to capitalize on there already highly successful F-16s, in both 32nd and 48th.

Since the 48th Tamiya 48th F-16CJ kit has come out, Kinetic has stepped into the 48th scale Viper arena, debuting with a DJ Viper as one of their first of two releases. Since then, they have shot-gun blasted about 7 more variants, compared to Tamiya's 4. While they are ok kits for some modelers, their sub-par tooling quality, trenchy surface detail, and major shape inaccuracies are a major deterrent for many others, like myself.

Also, having been a technical consultant on the "Sweet Sixteen" 32nd Tamiya F-16 project, I know they have the dimensions and other data needed to make a proper 2 Seat Viper. After all, we were able to craw all over a 1-1 scale Block 50 F-16CJ and a Block 40D.

Come on Tamiya, put out the F-16D model already! While you’re at it Tamiya, scale down (after some corrections) your 32nd F-4 series to 48th as well. This only makes sense, as these are the two most popular modern aviation subjects abroad!


The F-16B can be modeled from an F-16D-25/32 (PW Engined) by merely changing the tail base and the cockpits's instrument panels. But it's a good idea too.

Please include the latest loadouts like the sniper targetting pod, bru-57 bomb racks, gbu-38, agm-65 on single rail launcher and others... :)

There's more to it than that. For starters, the fore dorsal mount hole needs to be plugged and the flat spot re-contoured. The fuel saddle bay panel that surround the base of the vertical tail dorsal, will need to be rescribed to fit the smaller footprint of the A- model dorsal. So that means a new aft upper fuselage, for Tamiya to do it "right".

The cockpit requires more than just the instro panel, as the forward slope console panels are different (layout & Angle), as are the main console box layouts. The A/B models have the have the smaller HUD, unless they have been OCU upgraded.

Depending on what "Block" F-16B, you'll need to add other key details, like low profile ECS port, 8 slot gun muzzle, and flat ALS gun load door.

Tamiya will also need to correct their early Block 1-32 wheels, as the ones in the Tamiya F-16C/N kit are wrong.

Mike V

[rickstertwofive]

Thanks a lot for correcting me Vodnik and ViperEnfocer! ;)